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		<title>By: davidbaer</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-2/#comment-2777</link>
		<dc:creator>davidbaer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day more and more people are looking for alternative ways to make money, or to earn a living, both in the online and offline worlds people are starting realize that having a “job” and working 40 hours a week for 40 years is not the ideal way to live. </p>
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		<title>By: Los acontecimientos tecnológicos más destacados de 2009 &#171; La noticia tecnológica de la semana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Los acontecimientos tecnológicos más destacados de 2009 &#171; La noticia tecnológica de la semana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] La guerra A&amp;TT/Apple [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AT&#38;T gives in: fair iPhone pricing for most : iProng Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-2/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>AT&#38;T gives in: fair iPhone pricing for most : iProng Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] raising the ire of iPhone 3G users across Twitter and Apple-oriented websites by quietly announcing plans to charge [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] raising the ire of iPhone 3G users across Twitter and Apple-oriented websites by quietly announcing plans to charge [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Staszek</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-2/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Staszek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly Bill, 

I like how you will not respond to most of the comments because you find them absurd, and you fall back on Twitter (reallyyyy?) as a reliable source for statistics.  First off all I wonder how many of the Twitter followers are even of legal age.

Now back to the point. I am NO AT&amp;T sympathizer, in fact, I am really upset with the fact that they are hold MMS and Tethering back. I think AT&amp;T is far from an ideal company in their practices. If you were to make the article solely about those topics then it holds some merit.

Instead you made it about the upgrade price. Every cell phone company in the US uses subsidies, whether its for the $600 iPhone or a free camera phone. Try upgrading a subsidized Blackberry Storm from Verizon in less then 2 years, see where that gets you. They wont even talk to you till a month before your 2 years are up, at least AT&amp;T is doing it at 18 months.

Secondly, you reference the Version one iPhone owners (of which I am one). Guess what we paid full price for our phones, so since we didnt partake in any subsidies that is why I can order my 3GS 32 gig for $299.  

Bill, you really have to make up your mind. We can be like several other countries that offer no subsidies at all and you can pay $600 each time you want a new iPhone and buy it whenever you like. Or you can take the subsidies and pay $199-$299 and wait like a patient person till your eligibility comes back around for another subsidy.

One of the main problems in the US and why our economy is a shame as of late, is no one thinks more then one day at a time. We take short term profits not caring how that will effect us or our companies 10-15 years later.  Everything is instant gratification. This whole article is a small example of that type of thinking.

The best part is no one is forcing you to upgrade. You want to upgrade, but if you wait 6 more months (omg wow how will I ever live 6 more months) you can buy the phone for the same low price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly Bill, </p>
<p>I like how you will not respond to most of the comments because you find them absurd, and you fall back on Twitter (reallyyyy?) as a reliable source for statistics.  First off all I wonder how many of the Twitter followers are even of legal age.</p>
<p>Now back to the point. I am NO AT&amp;T sympathizer, in fact, I am really upset with the fact that they are hold MMS and Tethering back. I think AT&amp;T is far from an ideal company in their practices. If you were to make the article solely about those topics then it holds some merit.</p>
<p>Instead you made it about the upgrade price. Every cell phone company in the US uses subsidies, whether its for the $600 iPhone or a free camera phone. Try upgrading a subsidized Blackberry Storm from Verizon in less then 2 years, see where that gets you. They wont even talk to you till a month before your 2 years are up, at least AT&amp;T is doing it at 18 months.</p>
<p>Secondly, you reference the Version one iPhone owners (of which I am one). Guess what we paid full price for our phones, so since we didnt partake in any subsidies that is why I can order my 3GS 32 gig for $299.  </p>
<p>Bill, you really have to make up your mind. We can be like several other countries that offer no subsidies at all and you can pay $600 each time you want a new iPhone and buy it whenever you like. Or you can take the subsidies and pay $199-$299 and wait like a patient person till your eligibility comes back around for another subsidy.</p>
<p>One of the main problems in the US and why our economy is a shame as of late, is no one thinks more then one day at a time. We take short term profits not caring how that will effect us or our companies 10-15 years later.  Everything is instant gratification. This whole article is a small example of that type of thinking.</p>
<p>The best part is no one is forcing you to upgrade. You want to upgrade, but if you wait 6 more months (omg wow how will I ever live 6 more months) you can buy the phone for the same low price.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuch</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-2/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG,, u sir are a fail. Worst read I&#039;ve had in a few days. Look dude, stop writing, u look like an idiot when u put words on paper. What a cry baby. Really u are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG,, u sir are a fail. Worst read I&#8217;ve had in a few days. Look dude, stop writing, u look like an idiot when u put words on paper. What a cry baby. Really u are.</p>
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		<title>By: john smith</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-2/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>john smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just retarded... How where you able to write such a long useless story. I bet you own a blackberry and you love the free Zune microsoft gave you for writing this... If you don&#039;t understand why you got that great price for your 3G then you don&#039;t deserve to own one. That&#039;s like saying &quot; I understand I m already in a 3 yr lease and I have only had it for 9 months. But you came out with a new model of my car and I would be willing to sign a longer lease if I don&#039;t 
have to pay to cancel my lease and start a new 
one. Oh and can I keep the old car too?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just retarded&#8230; How where you able to write such a long useless story. I bet you own a blackberry and you love the free Zune microsoft gave you for writing this&#8230; If you don&#8217;t understand why you got that great price for your 3G then you don&#8217;t deserve to own one. That&#8217;s like saying &#8221; I understand I m already in a 3 yr lease and I have only had it for 9 months. But you came out with a new model of my car and I would be willing to sign a longer lease if I don&#8217;t<br />
have to pay to cancel my lease and start a new<br />
one. Oh and can I keep the old car too?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ig</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-2/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>ig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a completely made up story!!!! AT&amp;T charges $399 and $499 for those who are still under contract, $200 more than for those who are qualified for the lower pricing. They have been doing it since the iPhone 3g came out, and they are continuing to do so with 3GS.  I don&#039;t know where the author got his info, but it&#039;s wrong. I am not a big fan of AT&amp;T, but this is completely reasonable. You can&#039;t expect anybody subsidize $400 every year. They cut it to 18mo, instead of 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a completely made up story!!!! AT&amp;T charges $399 and $499 for those who are still under contract, $200 more than for those who are qualified for the lower pricing. They have been doing it since the iPhone 3g came out, and they are continuing to do so with 3GS.  I don&#8217;t know where the author got his info, but it&#8217;s wrong. I am not a big fan of AT&amp;T, but this is completely reasonable. You can&#8217;t expect anybody subsidize $400 every year. They cut it to 18mo, instead of 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: BigJayhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-2/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>BigJayhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least we know that your ability to use spell check exceeds your editorial blogging savvy. I hope your spell check wasn&#039;t SUBSIDIZED in any way or we&#039;ll have to listen to you whine about that too. I&#039;d recommend you go out and lease a car for 36 months and then return in 12 months and ask why you can&#039;t trade it in for a new model as long as you agree to another 36 months from the new lease date. You might actually get farther with the broke auto manufacturers than you are getting with your own audience above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least we know that your ability to use spell check exceeds your editorial blogging savvy. I hope your spell check wasn&#8217;t SUBSIDIZED in any way or we&#8217;ll have to listen to you whine about that too. I&#8217;d recommend you go out and lease a car for 36 months and then return in 12 months and ask why you can&#8217;t trade it in for a new model as long as you agree to another 36 months from the new lease date. You might actually get farther with the broke auto manufacturers than you are getting with your own audience above.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-2/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re just an idiot who shouldn&#039;t blog.   Subsidy is like renting to own and it exists with every carrier for every phone they offer.   You also have an option to buy any phone from any carrier at the full retail price to not be locked in, but no one does this. 

Know what you&#039;re talking about before you blog.  You should delete this article as its so rediculous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re just an idiot who shouldn&#8217;t blog.   Subsidy is like renting to own and it exists with every carrier for every phone they offer.   You also have an option to buy any phone from any carrier at the full retail price to not be locked in, but no one does this. </p>
<p>Know what you&#8217;re talking about before you blog.  You should delete this article as its so rediculous!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.beatweek.com/iphone/ipodiphoneitunes/577-the-new-apple-att-war/comment-page-1/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do you think that phone prices are as cheap as they are?  More features, more power, and a cheaper price....the org. iPhone was not sub&#039;d so the customer payed the full price of the phone.  The iPhone 3G was sub&#039;d by AT&amp;T so for signing a 2 year contract AT&amp;T agreed to pay 300-400 dollars of the cost of the phone.  They plan on making that back through your 2 years of service.  I dont see what the big deal is...ALL CELL PHONE COMPANIES WORK THIS WAY...do you really think that free phones or 30 dollar phones REALLY cost that much?  I have a first generation LG Chocolate and then LG came out with the second and then the third generation and even though I wanted the second generation I had to wait for my contact to be up....how is this different?  If their is a mistake anywhere it is the fact that the first generation iPhone was not sub&#039;d and then AT&amp;T allowed new iPhone users to upgrade to the iPhone 3G for the $199 - but thats just it....AT&amp;T allowed that because they didnt have to reap any of the sub&#039;d costs from the original iPhone....

There is nothing wrong with this business model...it lowers the barriers of entry by allowing more people to afford cell phones....do you think the cellular sector would sell 5 billion+ phones each year if you had to pay the real cost of the cell phone...lets be for real most people when signing up for some service never look at the long-term cost of the contract with monthly fees...we/they look at the initial cost that comes out of their pockets at the time of purchase....

This article is full of SH*T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do you think that phone prices are as cheap as they are?  More features, more power, and a cheaper price&#8230;.the org. iPhone was not sub&#8217;d so the customer payed the full price of the phone.  The iPhone 3G was sub&#8217;d by AT&amp;T so for signing a 2 year contract AT&amp;T agreed to pay 300-400 dollars of the cost of the phone.  They plan on making that back through your 2 years of service.  I dont see what the big deal is&#8230;ALL CELL PHONE COMPANIES WORK THIS WAY&#8230;do you really think that free phones or 30 dollar phones REALLY cost that much?  I have a first generation LG Chocolate and then LG came out with the second and then the third generation and even though I wanted the second generation I had to wait for my contact to be up&#8230;.how is this different?  If their is a mistake anywhere it is the fact that the first generation iPhone was not sub&#8217;d and then AT&amp;T allowed new iPhone users to upgrade to the iPhone 3G for the $199 &#8211; but thats just it&#8230;.AT&amp;T allowed that because they didnt have to reap any of the sub&#8217;d costs from the original iPhone&#8230;.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with this business model&#8230;it lowers the barriers of entry by allowing more people to afford cell phones&#8230;.do you think the cellular sector would sell 5 billion+ phones each year if you had to pay the real cost of the cell phone&#8230;lets be for real most people when signing up for some service never look at the long-term cost of the contract with monthly fees&#8230;we/they look at the initial cost that comes out of their pockets at the time of purchase&#8230;.</p>
<p>This article is full of SH*T</p>
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